[TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
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[TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
This projo is a PVR5263RK also and uses a 9-1302-04 deflection board.
The convergence registration board is a 9-1473A and the convergence amp
section is a 9-1318-02A. I too have access to the LG site but there are
no schematics for this model.
Bill Grabowski
Triangle Appliance
Kenosha,Wi 53142
John Conti wrote:
> Bill, Do you have the model # and maybe the board # to the sweep/horz. and
> convergence board.
> John
> l
>
>>From: Bill Grabowski <bgrabowski@xxxxxxxxx>
>>Reply-To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
>>Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:24:35 -0500
>>
>>Has anyone supplied the proper setup and adjustment for the convergence
>>of this model. I to am having problems setting the out side edges, have
>>bowing and just can't seem to get the entire pincussion to lap over all
>>three guns. This is a C8 chassis. Thanks!!
>>
>>Bill Grabowski
>>Triangle Appliance
>>Kenosha, Wi 53142
>>
>>John Conti wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rick. on the 5% resistors, you cant go wrong. Thats usually whats in
>>
>>there.
>>
>>>john
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Rick <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Reply-To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
>>>>Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:25:27 -0700
>>>>
>>>>Thank you everybody who suggested this. I pulled the 120k resistor on
>>>>the blue crt board and it was indeed up around half a meg.
>>>>The other two were OK but since I took them out to check I just put new
>>>>ones in.
>>>>
>>>>It looks like the original resistors were high tolerance. I only had
>>>>1/2W 5% carbons on hand so those are what I used as replacements.
>>>>Is the tolerance critical on these parts or am I OK?
>>>>
>>>>Next I think I am ready to attempt to converge the CRTs. Any tips on
>>>>this process would be welcome. This is the first PTV I've
>>>>repaired so this will also be my first time trying to converge. I have
>>>>test patterns on the Video Essentials DVD including:
>>>>Dots (both dense and not so dense), overscan, Snell & Wilcox, pluge,
>>>>color bars, and a few others. I don't think I have not yet found
>>>>a plain-jane crosshatch pattern but I have found a few lined patterns
>>>>that look like they will do.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Rick
>>>>
>>>>John Conti wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Rick, On the something wrong with the blue. look on the blue crt board
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>check or replace r5102
>>>>>(120k 1/2w) its either getting high in res. or getting ready to open.
>>
>>you
>>
>>>>>might also replace the ones on the red and green crt boards or they'll
>>>>
>>>>come
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>back to haunt you later.
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Rick <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Reply-To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Subject: [TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
>>>>>>Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 03:01:49 -0700
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK everyone, here is an update: Some things fixed, some things
>>
>>possibly
>>
>>>>>>not right...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I took John's advice (below) and checked the voltage at the diodes.
>>
>>The
>>
>>>>>>mess was still there
>>>>>>on the -26v diode so I replaced the diode and filter cap. The set was
>>>>>>stable for a long time. I thought
>>>>>>the problem was solved but eventually the "bounce" came back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I decided to check the +26v side and noticed that the convergence
>>
>>board
>>
>>>>>>was not getting +26v, but it was
>>>>>>there at the diode. Blown fuse on the +26v supply. I hadn't noticed it
>>>>>>before because the glass window was
>>>>>>covered with a blob of adhesive. I determined that dead side of the
>>
>>fuse
>>
>>>>>>wasn't grounded out and jumped it with
>>>>>>a fused ammeter to see what would happen. Current through the meter
>>
>>was
>>
>>>>>>not high so I jumped the blown fuse with
>>>>>>a wire. Of course now the convergence POTs have significant affect on
>>>>>>the TV compared with before. Also,
>>>>>>the odd pulsating has not returned on the -26v supply. I let the TV
>>
>>warm
>>
>>>>>>up for quite some time and all seems well.
>>>>>>There does seem to be some noise on the +26v supply, however, so I
>>
>>will
>>
>>>>>>replace it's filter cap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There's something up with BLUE, maybe someone has seen this before.
>>>>>>When I pull up a PIP box or the menu, blue is missing from the
>>
>>vertical
>>
>>>>>>lines of any borders/boxes.
>>>>>>If I go to the convergence adjustment setting in the menu, the two
>>>>>>vertical lines are not white because there is very
>>>>>>little blue in them. If I then turn off the red and green CRTs the
>>>>>>vertical lines for blue are tiny slivers compared to the
>>>>>>thick lines of R and G. Also on this menu all the text at the top
>>>>>>("Press FREEZE to select the color...") is in blue only and
>>>>>>is virtually unreadable because of the lack of vertical blue lines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks everyone, I'll keep you posted...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Rick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-26v is the line that pulsates. I looked at it on the scope last
>>
>>night
>>
>>>>>>>and it looks like it drops to ground potential for a split second,
>>
>>then
>>
>>>>>>>quickly rises back up and repeats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I will check the diode and perhaps filter cap esr and post results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rick, I'm sending this message again because I don't think it went
>>>>>>>>through.
>>>>>>>>But all I have left on this one is to check cr3419 and cr3420 and
>>
>>make
>>
>>>>>>>>sure
>>>>>>>>you have a clean waveform. This is you + & -
>>>>>>>>26volts for convergence. somtimes these diodes break down under a
>>
>>load
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the filters get dry and do not filter right and there is ripple.
>>>>>>>>good luck on this one
>>>>>>>>john
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From: Rick <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or
>>
>>advice
>>
>>>>>>>>>Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:07:32 -0700
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No dice...
>>>>>>>>>I pulled the two resistors and checked them out-of-circuit. They
>>
>>were
>>
>>>>>>>>>within tolernce and physically look as good as new.
>>>>>>>>>Just to be sure, I measured resistance while accosting them with a
>>>>
>>>>heat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>gun (not a hair dryer, but a real heat gun).
>>>>>>>>>They both held up remarkably well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the suggestion!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>John Conti wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Rick, on the 9-1302 check two resistors, they are r3243 (110k 1/2
>>>>
>>>>watt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>r3244 (82k 1/2 watt)
>>>>>>>>>>they either change values or open up. They are located next to the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>upright
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>board that stands vertical. I think your having the same problem
>>>>
>>>>that
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>a few months ago and if so, drove me crazy before I located the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>problem.
>>>>>>>>>Let
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>me know how you came out on this, for if thats the problem it will
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>sure
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>save
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>others a lot of time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>good luck
>>>>>>>>>>john
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>From: Rick <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>To: TV@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TV] Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:14:05 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hello, I have a Zenith 52" rear projection TV.
>>>>>>>>>>>Would somebody please help me obtain a service manual or
>>
>>schematics
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>this TV?
>>>>>>>>>>>I have tried from a couple of places but met dead ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The problem I am having is hard to explain but I will do my best.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What follows is a long account of everything I have observed and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>tried
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>so far.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>First the convergence is way out of whack and although I get
>>
>>slight
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>movement
>>>>>>>>>>>when adjusting the POTs on the convergence board, it's nowhere
>>
>>near
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>enough to
>>>>>>>>>>>bring it back into whack =)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Second, after the TV warms up, the voltage supplied to the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>convergence
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>board and convergence amplifier
>>>>>>>>>>>(same circuit) becomes "unstable." On a scope the line
>>>>
>>>>representing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>this DC voltage will begin to bounce slowly
>>>>>>>>>>>at first, then more rapidly (up to 2 or 3 times per second) and
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>amplitude of this oscillation increases.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Since this distortion is in the convergence circuit, it manifests
>>>>
>>>>as
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>picture movement on the screen and affects all three
>>>>>>>>>>>CRTs. As the TV warms up and the voltage begins to drift, the
>>
>>top
>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>the screen will bow down then bounce in time
>>>>>>>>>>>with the fluctuating voltage.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I visually inspected all components, especially resistors, and
>>
>>did
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>find any obviously burned or otherwise expired components.
>>>>>>>>>>>Next I took a can of air used it to cool parts in suspect places.
>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>found a couple transistors and a resistor, all near each other,
>>>>
>>>>that
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>when cooled slowed or even stopped the strange voltage
>>
>>fluctuation.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Next I replaced the parts thinking they may have tired out, but
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>problem persists. Now I suspect too much current is going
>>
>>through
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>section of the circuit for whatever reason and blowing air over
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>PCB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>only cures the symptom, not the underlaying problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The front convergence board with the POTs has a Disable jumper to
>>>>>>>>>>>disable the convergence correction. Setting this jumper will
>>>>>>>>>>>immediately stop the voltage oscillation. Upon re-enabling the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>jumper,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>the voltage will be stable for a few seconds and then ramp back
>>
>>up
>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>full oscillation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Disconnecting just the BLUE input to the convergence amplifier
>>
>>will
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>stop
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>the bouncing and then the red and green convergence adjustments
>>>>
>>>>have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>much more effect on the picture than with the blue input
>>
>>connected.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Disconnecting the output coils of any of the RGB amplifiers stops
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>bouncing but probably only because of reduced current draw
>>
>>through
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>whole system.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I replaced the STKs which solved nothing, but neither did it
>>
>>break
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>At this point I feel like I'm just shooting in the dark (and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>without a schematic).
>>>>>>>>>>>Somebody please help!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>-Rick
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>>Triangle Appliance
>>Kenosha,Wi 53142
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