[TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
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[TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Grabowski" <bgrabowski@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:07 AM
Subject: [TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
> This projo is a PVR5263RK also and uses a 9-1302-04 deflection board.
> The convergence registration board is a 9-1473A and the convergence amp
> section is a 9-1318-02A. I too have access to the LG site but there are
> no schematics for this model.
>
> Bill Grabowski
> Triangle Appliance
> Kenosha,Wi 53142
>
> John Conti wrote:
>> Bill, Do you have the model # and maybe the board # to the sweep/horz.
>> and
>> convergence board.
>> John
>> l
>>
>>>From: Bill Grabowski <bgrabowski@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>Reply-To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
>>>Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:24:35 -0500
>>>
>>>Has anyone supplied the proper setup and adjustment for the convergence
>>>of this model. I to am having problems setting the out side edges, have
>>>bowing and just can't seem to get the entire pincussion to lap over all
>>>three guns. This is a C8 chassis. Thanks!!
>>>
>>>Bill Grabowski
>>>Triangle Appliance
>>>Kenosha, Wi 53142
>>>
>>>John Conti wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rick. on the 5% resistors, you cant go wrong. Thats usually whats in
>>>
>>>there.
>>>
>>>>john
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: Rick <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Reply-To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Subject: [TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
>>>>>Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:25:27 -0700
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you everybody who suggested this. I pulled the 120k resistor on
>>>>>the blue crt board and it was indeed up around half a meg.
>>>>>The other two were OK but since I took them out to check I just put new
>>>>>ones in.
>>>>>
>>>>>It looks like the original resistors were high tolerance. I only had
>>>>>1/2W 5% carbons on hand so those are what I used as replacements.
>>>>>Is the tolerance critical on these parts or am I OK?
>>>>>
>>>>>Next I think I am ready to attempt to converge the CRTs. Any tips on
>>>>>this process would be welcome. This is the first PTV I've
>>>>>repaired so this will also be my first time trying to converge. I have
>>>>>test patterns on the Video Essentials DVD including:
>>>>>Dots (both dense and not so dense), overscan, Snell & Wilcox, pluge,
>>>>>color bars, and a few others. I don't think I have not yet found
>>>>>a plain-jane crosshatch pattern but I have found a few lined patterns
>>>>>that look like they will do.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Rick
>>>>>
>>>>>John Conti wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Rick, On the something wrong with the blue. look on the blue crt board
>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>check or replace r5102
>>>>>>(120k 1/2w) its either getting high in res. or getting ready to open.
>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>>>>might also replace the ones on the red and green crt boards or they'll
>>>>>
>>>>>come
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>back to haunt you later.
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: Rick <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Reply-To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Subject: [TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or advice
>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 03:01:49 -0700
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>OK everyone, here is an update: Some things fixed, some things
>>>
>>>possibly
>>>
>>>>>>>not right...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I took John's advice (below) and checked the voltage at the diodes.
>>>
>>>The
>>>
>>>>>>>mess was still there
>>>>>>>on the -26v diode so I replaced the diode and filter cap. The set was
>>>>>>>stable for a long time. I thought
>>>>>>>the problem was solved but eventually the "bounce" came back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I decided to check the +26v side and noticed that the convergence
>>>
>>>board
>>>
>>>>>>>was not getting +26v, but it was
>>>>>>>there at the diode. Blown fuse on the +26v supply. I hadn't noticed
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>before because the glass window was
>>>>>>>covered with a blob of adhesive. I determined that dead side of the
>>>
>>>fuse
>>>
>>>>>>>wasn't grounded out and jumped it with
>>>>>>>a fused ammeter to see what would happen. Current through the meter
>>>
>>>was
>>>
>>>>>>>not high so I jumped the blown fuse with
>>>>>>>a wire. Of course now the convergence POTs have significant affect on
>>>>>>>the TV compared with before. Also,
>>>>>>>the odd pulsating has not returned on the -26v supply. I let the TV
>>>
>>>warm
>>>
>>>>>>>up for quite some time and all seems well.
>>>>>>>There does seem to be some noise on the +26v supply, however, so I
>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>>>>>replace it's filter cap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There's something up with BLUE, maybe someone has seen this before.
>>>>>>>When I pull up a PIP box or the menu, blue is missing from the
>>>
>>>vertical
>>>
>>>>>>>lines of any borders/boxes.
>>>>>>>If I go to the convergence adjustment setting in the menu, the two
>>>>>>>vertical lines are not white because there is very
>>>>>>>little blue in them. If I then turn off the red and green CRTs the
>>>>>>>vertical lines for blue are tiny slivers compared to the
>>>>>>>thick lines of R and G. Also on this menu all the text at the top
>>>>>>>("Press FREEZE to select the color...") is in blue only and
>>>>>>>is virtually unreadable because of the lack of vertical blue lines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks everyone, I'll keep you posted...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Rick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks John,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-26v is the line that pulsates. I looked at it on the scope last
>>>
>>>night
>>>
>>>>>>>>and it looks like it drops to ground potential for a split second,
>>>
>>>then
>>>
>>>>>>>>quickly rises back up and repeats.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I will check the diode and perhaps filter cap esr and post results.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Rick, I'm sending this message again because I don't think it went
>>>>>>>>>through.
>>>>>>>>>But all I have left on this one is to check cr3419 and cr3420 and
>>>
>>>make
>>>
>>>>>>>>>sure
>>>>>>>>>you have a clean waveform. This is you + & -
>>>>>>>>>26volts for convergence. somtimes these diodes break down under a
>>>
>>>load
>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the filters get dry and do not filter right and there is ripple.
>>>>>>>>>good luck on this one
>>>>>>>>>john
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>From: Rick <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TV] Re: Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or
>>>
>>>advice
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:07:32 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>No dice...
>>>>>>>>>>I pulled the two resistors and checked them out-of-circuit. They
>>>
>>>were
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>within tolernce and physically look as good as new.
>>>>>>>>>>Just to be sure, I measured resistance while accosting them with a
>>>>>
>>>>>heat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>gun (not a hair dryer, but a real heat gun).
>>>>>>>>>>They both held up remarkably well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the suggestion!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>John Conti wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Rick, on the 9-1302 check two resistors, they are r3243 (110k 1/2
>>>>>
>>>>>watt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>r3244 (82k 1/2 watt)
>>>>>>>>>>>they either change values or open up. They are located next to
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>upright
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>board that stands vertical. I think your having the same problem
>>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>a few months ago and if so, drove me crazy before I located the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>problem.
>>>>>>>>>>Let
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>me know how you came out on this, for if thats the problem it
>>>>>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>sure
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>save
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>others a lot of time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>john
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>From: Rick <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>To: TV@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TV] Zenith PVR5263RK - Need service manul and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>advice
>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:14:05 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hello, I have a Zenith 52" rear projection TV.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Would somebody please help me obtain a service manual or
>>>
>>>schematics
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>this TV?
>>>>>>>>>>>>I have tried from a couple of places but met dead ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>The problem I am having is hard to explain but I will do my
>>>>>>>>>>>>best.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What follows is a long account of everything I have observed and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>tried
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>so far.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>First the convergence is way out of whack and although I get
>>>
>>>slight
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>movement
>>>>>>>>>>>>when adjusting the POTs on the convergence board, it's nowhere
>>>
>>>near
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>enough to
>>>>>>>>>>>>bring it back into whack =)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Second, after the TV warms up, the voltage supplied to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>convergence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>board and convergence amplifier
>>>>>>>>>>>>(same circuit) becomes "unstable." On a scope the line
>>>>>
>>>>>representing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>this DC voltage will begin to bounce slowly
>>>>>>>>>>>>at first, then more rapidly (up to 2 or 3 times per second) and
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>amplitude of this oscillation increases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Since this distortion is in the convergence circuit, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>manifests
>>>>>
>>>>>as
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>picture movement on the screen and affects all three
>>>>>>>>>>>>CRTs. As the TV warms up and the voltage begins to drift, the
>>>
>>>top
>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>the screen will bow down then bounce in time
>>>>>>>>>>>>with the fluctuating voltage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I visually inspected all components, especially resistors, and
>>>
>>>did
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>find any obviously burned or otherwise expired components.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Next I took a can of air used it to cool parts in suspect
>>>>>>>>>>>>places.
>>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>found a couple transistors and a resistor, all near each other,
>>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>when cooled slowed or even stopped the strange voltage
>>>
>>>fluctuation.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Next I replaced the parts thinking they may have tired out, but
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>problem persists. Now I suspect too much current is going
>>>
>>>through
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>section of the circuit for whatever reason and blowing air over
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>PCB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>only cures the symptom, not the underlaying problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>The front convergence board with the POTs has a Disable jumper
>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>disable the convergence correction. Setting this jumper will
>>>>>>>>>>>>immediately stop the voltage oscillation. Upon re-enabling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>jumper,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>the voltage will be stable for a few seconds and then ramp back
>>>
>>>up
>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>full oscillation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Disconnecting just the BLUE input to the convergence amplifier
>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>stop
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>the bouncing and then the red and green convergence adjustments
>>>>>
>>>>>have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>much more effect on the picture than with the blue input
>>>
>>>connected.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Disconnecting the output coils of any of the RGB amplifiers
>>>>>>>>>>>>stops
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>bouncing but probably only because of reduced current draw
>>>
>>>through
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>whole system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I replaced the STKs which solved nothing, but neither did it
>>>
>>>break
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>At this point I feel like I'm just shooting in the dark (and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>without a schematic).
>>>>>>>>>>>>Somebody please help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>-Rick
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>>>Kenosha,Wi 53142
>>>262-694-6500
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