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[TV] Re: LCD TV's



thats great.
Then there's TV's!  One needs to smack their head into a brick wall  
and knock some of that knowledge around in their skull to begin
tv work. Its the only way to stay sane. :)  30+ years here.



On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Ronald Soccoli wrote:

>
> Guys - Never discount the value of basic electronic theory. I am a
> electronic engineer  that graduated from Worcester Tech. Have worked
> 47 years on surface ship sonar, but my background in electronics has
> helped me fix numerous ( probably well over 200 ) electronic
> devices. So basic theory plus experience (plus common sense) will
> certainly produce great results.  Good luck guys.
>
> Ron
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:24 54AM, Otit2@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am been teaching electronic repair for almost 35 years,during all
>> those
>> years I graduate about 500 Electronic Technicians,the course went
>> for 2 years,4
>> hours per week,in the evenings,and so people was able to keep a job
>> for while
>>  they came to school, and the only thing I was teaching was
>> electronic plus
>> some  math to understand some theory, I divide the classes in 2,
>> the first 2
>> hours was  theory and the next 2 hours,practice or lab. where the
>> students was
>> able to have  hands on right from the beginning,is very difficult
>> that they
>> keep the  interest,if you only teach theory for long time before
>> they touch any
>> thing, on this practice classes they learn color code, wattage and
>> size  for
>> different resistors,test capacitors with the Z meter,how to use
>> the tester,use
>> of the fingers to check for temperature to see if something  was
>> working,use
>> of the nose to check for overheat components,use of the scope as  a
>> tool for
>> troubleshooting,how to solder special SMC etc and this practice or
>> lab classes
>> keep the interest very high,the number of people that quit the
>> course was
>> very low,maybe 2%.-We have tests on theory and practice once in a
>> while,also I
>> was available on Saturday morning for 4 hours for those that miss
>> a  class
>> during the week for recuperation,was very fun to teach,you can see
>> people that
>> came that they did know nothing about electronic and after  the 2
>> years they
>> were able to diagnose problems,even I just to have a doctor  that
>> came to
>> classes with his son
>> I have many successful stories about this people,many of them doing
>> labor
>> work and after they graduate as an Electronic Technician they found
>> some very
>> good jobs in this field,sometimes they call me or visit me to
>> thanks me for the
>>  training,some of them work for the government,my teaching program  
>> was
>> certified  by the State,some of the students pass the CET test,the
>> age for this
>> courses  went from 16 years old to 75.- If I teach today I will
>> have to adjust the
>>  program with this new technology, I remember one guy that work in
>> a big
>> potato  warehouse and was making the minimum salary,when He got his
>> certificate,He
>> went  to his boos and ask for a raise,He was the one keeping all the
>> computers  running in that plant,they triple his salary right
>> away,others companies
>> pay for  the training,even Welfare pay for some of the students and
>> the
>> government.-  Have a nice day.-
>> Tito's TV Sales and Service=CET Id.66
>> Saint Anthony-Idaho-83445.-
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/2/2009 6:46:00 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
>> Steelen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>>
>>
>> Thank you Ming!
>>
>> My school was only a 2 year tech school.  They basically tried to
>> teach the
>> whole field of electronics in two years.  Lots of theory, build
>> lots of
>> circuits. some non electronics classes to meet  accreditation
>> standards. some
>> networking (Basic), PC Hardware, some  Programming. It was a good
>> foundation, but
>> they didn't really tech how to fix  things. They taught things you
>> need to know
>> to fix things, but not the process  of repairing things. No quick
>> test tips or
>> secrets of the pro's. most of my  classmates are probably working
>> in jobs were
>> they test the same circuit board  all day or just swap cards to fix
>> whatever
>> they are working on. I don't want  to buy a $200 board because some
>> cheap
>> parts have failed or a bad solder joint  was made. I want to find
>> the problem and
>> fix it for cheap. I have a limited  budget here and I try to save
>> it for the
>> test equipment I need. They didn't  even have a scope when I
>> started here, all
>> they had was a cheap multi-meter  and a decent soldering station. S!
>> ometime si buy my own gear on ebay and  just bring it in when
>> needed, but I
>> did make them buy me a scope, a Variable  AC supply/isolation
>> transformer, ESR
>> meter, and function generator/frequency  counter. I lack the more
>> specialized
>> instruments though.
>>
>> Anyway, sorry  to ramble. Thanks for the book I will read it over
>> the next
>> week or so and see  how it goes and thanks again to all for sharing
>> your
>> suggestions.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathaniel Steele
>> A/V  Technician
>> AAS-CEET
>> Frederick County Public Schools
>> 1415 Amherst  street,
>> P.O. Box 3508
>> Winchester, VA 22601
>>
>> Phone: 1-540-662-4518  ext 88240
>> Mobile: 1-540-974-2172
>> Fax:  1-540-667-5179
>>
>>
>>>>> Ming Yu <yuming@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  4/2/2009 3:52 AM >>>
>>
>> Hi, Dear friend, I am now sending you the  link of this e-book. it
>> is about
>> 13M files.
>> The link is "
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=13d24b809029382fd2db6fb9a8902bda
>> "   Please look at it carefully, if after finish look at it and still
>> need more  information you can go to that LCD site to buy that
>> information. I
>> feel it is  so good but it will suit some body's idea. as new model
>> LCD, Plasma
>> TV are  very difficult to change individual small parts. It is
>> needed to
>> changed the  whole board.
>> If your school has excellent courses, please tell me so that  I can
>> go to
>> study online. I feel myself did not know so much on LCD and Plasma
>> TV as CRT
>> Base TVs. These CRT base TV theory I was taught at I was a boy. it
>> was very
>> wonderful  course, every small piece of circuit are explanned  very
>> detailed  so
>> that I can work over 40 years still can understand  other newer
>> circuit. All
>> LCD Pasma TV circuit are " MCC "( MO. Cha. Cha. ....  Chinese
>> pronounciation
>> .....At I was a boy MCC means not very clear on every  thing ) not
>> very clear and
>> grasp it with confidence.
>>
>>
>> Thank  you
>> Yu, Ming
>> A1 Discount E&TV Service (Lic :  E79924)
>> 415-724-0005
>> http://www.the ( http://www.the/  )-best-tv-guy.com
>> 2229 San Jose Ave.,
>> SF, CA  94112
>> 04-01-09
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You
>> Yu, Ming
>> A1 Discount  E&TV Service (Lic : E79924)
>> 415-724-0005
>> http://www.the (  http://www.the/ )-best-tv-guy.com
>> 2229 San Jose Ave.,
>> SF, CA  94112
>> 04-01-09
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From:  Anthony Clayton <tcccjc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 10:17:24 PM
>> Subject: [TV] Re: LCD  TV's
>>
>>
>>
>> I wood like a copy of that EBook Ming also thank you in  advance
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 4/1/09, Randy Drennen  <rdrennen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Randy Drennen  <rdrennen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [TV] Re: LCD TVs
>>>  To: tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 2:28  PM
>>> I would like to see that EBook Ming.  Could you send me  a
>>> copy?
>>> Have a great day!
>>>
>>> Randy D.
>>>  Tech 153
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ming Yu"  <yuming@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <tv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>  Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:05 PM
>>> Subject: [TV] Re: LCD  TVs
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, it is very simple talking,  every thing are
>>> external talking, nothing
>>>> tell you depth  into how it work , and working theory.
>>> if you like I will
>>>> send you one E-book that is 500 pages of book it will
>>> tell you  more than
>>>> it. This site I already have purchase one, but can  not
>>> get much benefit.
>>>> You still need to have to look at  more books.
>>>> If you like it, I will upload it to mediafire.com  and
>>> post the link to
>>>> you. After look at this book I have  the outlined
>>> structure of this LCD,
>>>> Plasma TVs, but each  circuit still need to find out
>>> and study. now every
>>>>  older TV guy only can changed boards to fix it. If
>>> have depth
>>>> understanding of computer science may be better to
>>> work on new  model LCD,
>>>> Plasma TVs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Thank you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Nathan  Steele
>>> <Steelen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:  TV@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 9:46:34  AM
>>>> Subject: [TV] LCD TVs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Anyone out there have links to some good resources for
>>> learning to  repair
>>>> LCD TVs?
>>>> I repair A/V electronics for the  School board (21
>>> schools in our district
>>>> currently). We  haven't bought a CRT in over two
>>> years and I am just now
>>>>  starting to get LCD TVs with problems. Anyone
>>> know if this site is  worth
>>>> the money? http://www.lcd ( http://www.lcd/  )-television-
>>>> repair.com/
>>> I'd like to know a
>>>> little more  before forking over any money, your
>>> experiences or comments
>>>> would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>  Nathan
>>>>
>>>> Nathaniel Steele
>>>> A/V  Technician
>>>> AAS-CEET
>>>> Frederick County Public  Schools
>>>> 1415 Amherst street,
>>>> P.O. Box 3508
>>>> Winchester, VA 22601
>>>>
>>>> Phone: 1-540-662-4518 ext  88240
>>>> Mobile: 1-540-974-2172
>>>> Fax:  1-540-667-5179
>>>>
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